ELECTION AND PREDESTINATION

 

ISRAEL AT THE RED SEA 2        JEFF IN    53-0327

 21 But you are saved by grace, election: God's foreknowledge, predestination, foreordination. Paul tells the church at Ephesus, that God predestinated us in Christ before the foundation of the world. Think of it: Predestinated us in Christ before the foundation of the world. What we worried about then? Get away from the worry, we're just the happiest creatures you could ever see. My, how can you believe that and keep from being happy?

 

BOOK OF EXODUS 2       CHICAGO IL    55-1006E

  E-19 The word "predestinate," that's not a good word to use. The word "foreknowledge" is better. Predestination looks back to foreknowledge and foreknowledge looks to destination. But God not making, set it in order, a little hole that you have to go through and can't go no other way; but God in order to be God, He knowed the end from the beginning, so He could predict it, and set things in order to happen.

 

WHERE I THINK PENTECOST FAILED       SAN FERNANDO CA    55-1111

  E-28 But if we'd only go back to find out when God made His first man, He made man in His Own image. And God is a Spirit, so He had to make spirit-man.

Now, the Word is used here in the 5th verse of "predestination," Predestinated, it's not a very good word for an evangelist or a minister to use, because it kinda confuses people when you say "predestinate." Predestination speaks--looks back to foreknowledge; foreknowledge looks to destination. Predestination goes back to foreknowledge; foreknowledge goes to destination.

In other words God didn't say, "Now, I'll make this man be this, and I'll make this man to be that." But in order to be God, He had to know the end from the beginning. So in order to foreknowledge that He knew, He could say, "This would happen, and that would happen," because He was God and knowed where everything would be placed. And therefore, He could ordain certain things for certain ages. You believe that? That--that's truly Scripture.

 

FAITH OF ABRAHAM       SAN FERNANDO CA    55-1118

  E-19 And "predestination" is a hard word among a congregation of people, because predestination... Really "foreknowledge" is a better word. And predestination looks back to foreknowledge, and foreknowledge looks on to destiny. That God, being infinite, in the beginning knew the end from the beginning, therefore He knew what people would do, so He could foretell what would take place, for He knew what would be. Therefore He... Before Esau or Jacob, either one was born, God could say, "Esau I've hated, and Jacob I've loved," because He foreknew what they could be. He never made Esau the way he was. He wasn't willing that Esau would be that way, but Esau, by choice, God knew would take that way. So that's how He knows us today. He knows your heart. And if... You might be able to fool your neighbor; you might be able to fool your pastor; but you'll never be able to fool God, 'cause He knows your heart.

 

GOD'S COVENANT WITH ABRAHAM        SIOUX FALLS SD    56-0223

  E-15   Now, God's not willing that any should perish, but that all would come to repentance. But in order to be God, He had to know... Now, the word "predestinate," as is used in Ephesians 1:5, predestinate there, isn't a good word. It means in--in speaking of predestination to the people sometimes leads them to think that God just predestinated you to push you through a little pipe, or something. That's not right. Predestination looks back to foreknowledge. And foreknowledge looks to destiny.

 

JESUS AROSE       CHICAGO IL    56-0405

  E-6 As well stated, predestination looks back to foreknowledge, and foreknowledge looks on to destiny. See? And God in the beginning, could see all things the way it would happen. Therefore, He could tell, this will be this way, and that'll be that way, and this will be this way, and that that way, because He... By foreknowledge He wasn't willing that the left side would be wrong, that this would be... He didn't want that to happen. But being God, He knew it would happen that way. So therefore, He could foretell what would be. And He knew the end from the beginning. That wonderful? And to think that every borned again child of God tonight, has that privilege and assurance to know that God knoweth His own. See? That's right. God knoweth His own.

 

HEBREWS CHAPTER 7 PT 1       JEFF IN    57-0915E

  318 The law, the legalist (See?), "Aw, you have to do this. If you don't do this, you're not a Christian. And if you don't keep the sabbath. If you don't... If you eat meat. If you do these things," all these legal ideas. "You've got to go to church. If you don't, you pay a penalty for it. You have to do a novena." That stuff is nonsense. You're saved by the grace of God, by the foreknowledge of God, by His predestination. God called Abraham by predestination, by foreknowledge. He called... He hated Esau and loved Jacob before either one was born. That's right. It's--it's God's foreknowledge that knows these things.

 

WE WOULD SEE JESUS        DALLAS TEXAS   58-0612

  E-26 Now, the world won't see, no matter... There's people born--we hate to say this--there's people that were born to eternal destruction. The Scripture says so. Romans 8 said, "Before that Esau or Jacob was ever born or come from their mother's womb, God said, 'I hate Esau and love Jacob,' before either child had a chance." God by, not predestination by His will, but by His foreknowledge He knew that Esau was a shyster to begin with. Excuse that expression, but that just means a renegade. So that's what he was. And God by foreknowledge knew it.

And some people, no matter what you would do, they'll still disbelieve it. But God's just, He keeps His Word.

 

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS       JEFF IN    59-1223

  494-Q-103 Now, let's see. Now, the next one here says; What is meant by predestination before the world begin; where is it in the Bible? Predestination before the world begin?

All right, my precious friend, let us turn to Ephesians the 1st chapter just for one place. We won't take too long on this one I don't think, unless it doesn't answer right. And let's just start reading here at Ephesians the 1st chapter.

Now, the first thing, I want to say this, that "predestination" is a bad word for a minister to--to use before an untrained congregation. See? It is. I don't use it. Sometimes here at the church... But out in the audiences, out in the big... Where everything's piled in from everything, I watch that word. I always use the word foreknowledge, because predestination is only the foreknowledge of God. God being infinite, by foreknowledge He knew everything, or He isn't infinite. See, see? He knew what would happen. So by foreknowledge He could predestinate. That's the reason that I believe that God--that God just doesn't...

 

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS       JEFF IN    59-1223

  497-124 I stood out yonder where that big glass... You can see a hundred and twenty million years of light space. When I looked and seen that (I didn't get to see through the glass, but I seen the picture where they took it.)--and I just had to raise up my hands in there in that place, and I said, "How great Thou art, how great Thou art." And before one of those planets ever turned (Hallelujah.), God chose us in Jesus Christ. Now, how great Thou art. Yes, sir.

Before there was a world, before there was a planet, before there was a sun, before there was a moon, before there was light, before there was anything, when it was still God, God and His thoughts, the eternal thoughts of God chose you by predestination, by foreknowledge, to know that you would be on the earth, to know there would be sin.

 

EPHESIANS PARALLELS JOSHUA       JEFF IN    60-0515E

  106 Listen to this. Predestination looks back to foreknowledge--I mean election. Election looks back to foreknowledge, and predestination looks to destiny. Don't forget that, that election looks back here, here it is, "I was a cocklebur. I was born in sin, shaped in iniquity, come to the world speaking lies, born amongst sinners. Father and mother and all my whole family, sinners. I was a cocklebur. But all of a sudden I become a wheat grain. How did it happen?" That, what is that? Election. God, before the foundation of the world, elected that the cocklebur was to become a grain of wheat. "Now, I know I'm a grain of wheat, because I'm saved. How do I do it?" Look back and see that He predestinated it, long time ago. By foreknowledge He seen that I would love Him, so He made a propitiation through His Own Son, that through Him I might become from a cocklebur to a grain of wheat. "Now, where am I at now?" I'm saved; I'm walking in the grace of God. "What does predestination look?" To destiny. "Where will He take me to, and where am I going?" That's got you. There you are.

 

ADOPTION OR PLACING       JEFF IN    60-0522E

  89 How was our inheritance given to us, through what? Predestination. Predestination is foreknowledge. How did God know He could trust you to be a preacher? His foreknowledge. "Not he that willeth or he that runneth, or he... It's God that showeth mercy." That's right. Predestination, He knew what was in you. He knowed what was in you before you even come on the earth. He knowed what was in you before there was an earth for you to come on. That's--that's Him. That's the infinite God, the infinite. We're finite; we can only think finite.

 

JEHOVAH JIREH PART 2       GRASS VALLEY CA    62-0706

  33 Now, there's a doctrine of predestination which is rotten, nonsense. But there really is a true predestination. God, by foreknowledge could predestinate, because He has foreknowledge. God's not willing that any should perish, but being the infinite God, knew that who would perish and who would not.

That's the reason He said before Isaac or--or before Jacob or Esau was born, He hated Esau and loved Jacob. His foreknowledge let Him know that Esau was a shyster, and He let Him know that Jacob respected that birthright; regardless of how he got it, he wanted it. Now, both boys, twins, born from the same holy mother and father, but one was a renegade and the other was a--a believer. Now, God by His foreknowledge knew that.

 

SEED SHALL NOT BE HEIR        LA CA     65-0429B

  47 That's why the rapture, the Bride, the wise virgin, the called-out, the foreordained, the elected... Why, you business men wouldn't run your office like some people try to think that God runs His program: haphazard. God knew before the foundation of the world who would be saved and who would not be saved. By predestination, by foreknowledge He saw every member, put every name on the Lamb's Book of Life before the church ever began. Jesus come to seek and save that which was on that Book. He bought the Book of Redemption. It was lost, and He redeemed us, and all names was on that Book was redeemed when He redeemed us.

 

CHRIST REVEALED IN HIS OWN WORD      JEFF IN    65-0822M

  104 Now, we know God chose by predestination His church, His place, His prophets, and all about it. By foreknowledge He predestinated His prophet. And when the age arrived, He had His prophet arrive at the same time and inspired him as He wrote the Bible by him. Now, God wrote the Bible only using the prophet, because that's His way of doing it. So see, it is not the word... So see, It is the Word of God and not the word of man.

 

TRYING TO DO GOD A SERVICE        SHP LA    65-1127B

  133 Now, but God has His Word set, and has in all ages. His foreknowledge has caused Him to set in the church, and in the people, certain things that He did from the beginning. And then the Gospel that's being preached to that age is only revealed to that certain people; the rest of them don't see it. See? "Thank Thee, Father, Thou has hid these things from the eyes of the wise and prudent, and reveal it to babes such as would learn." That's predestination. Not that He did it by, you say, "I'll choose you, and don't choose you." By His foreknowledge He knowed what you would do.

 

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